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• What are the background requirements for a quant position?
• Do I have chance if I am from a non-prestige school?
• What are the books I should read before interview?
• I am a Ph.D. in physics, mathematics, engineering, Should I/How can I convert to quant?
• How do I find a quant job?
• I have no programming experience, can I do quant too?
• What should you expect to be a quant?
• Why Wall Street likes Ph.Ds in Physics, Mathematics and Computer Science?
• Emanuel Derman's famous guide in Finding a Job in Finance (Risk, May 2004) 
• Mark Joshi's guide on becoming a quantHot! |
• What are the background requirements for a quant position? |
Generally speaking, a quant needs to be good at math (most important statistics, stochastics, calculus and algebra), programming (most important C++) and basic finance knowledge (Black-Scholes, Risk-neutral, options, futures, forward, bonds etc. ). Normally, a Ph.D. from physics, math, statistics, computer science or engineering (electrical engineering) of a top school, or a MBA in finance from a top school (This is rare), or a M.S. in financial engineering (if you come from this, you may already know a lot of this) can have no problem get interviews. If you are a Ph.D. from arts and social science, you will have a better shot converting to a consultant rather than a quant. But if you come from prestigeous school or you are super smart, it's not impossible.
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• Do I have chance if I am from a non-prestige school? |
Nobody knows. Even you come from a prestigeous school, you may also fail the interviews and get nothing. If you don't have a strong background, you have to try harder, learn more finace, be better at math and practice your interview questions. If you have the luxuary, attend one of the financial engineering Master of Science programs offered across the country. It provides good return on your investment of money and time. Whatever, you have to try, Am I right? |
• What are the books I should read before interview? |
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To get a job on wall street, you must be well prepared before you head out for an real interview. To get prepared, you have to commit yourself time and efforts reading books, learning finance, solving problems. It is a big task. Fortunately, there are many books out there to help you achieve your goal. Our Quant Books section has detail reviews and instructions on reading books for interview as well as textbooks for quantitative work.
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• I am a Ph.D. in physics, mathematics, engineering, Should I/How can I convert to quant?
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0. First of first, remember No Pain No Gains. Even for very smart physical students from prestigeous schools have to do a lot of hands on work to pin down an offer. They do get lots of interviews due to their previous achievements/schools, but interviews do NOT guaranttee a job offer. You work hard, you get paid well. This is how wall street value your bonus too :).
1. Browse our website, learn what is a quant and what a quant does. Listen and ask on the forum to see whether you are suitable for a quant position.
2. Make the decision and commit yourself for several months hard work. Normally 3-6 months should be enough for you to be comfortable talking with interviewers.
3. Make a plan: you need read the required books, All of them.
4. At the same time, go to the forum, do 1-3 quizs (be brain teaser, math or finance) each day.
5. If you finish the required books, you should be ready to go. Post your resume on job board, contact recruiters and start to interview. |
• How do I find a quant job? |
Many ways:
0. Attend your school's job fair and recruitment events. Large finance companies normally hold recruitment events at several prestige schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT etc. If you are the student of such schools, you have a higher possibility to get many interviews and as a result, you can easily become a quant easily.
1. Get a reference who is already in the field, ask him/her to submit your resume to his/her company, most people are ready to help others as they have had the similar experience as you. Plus, if you get hired, they normally get referral fee too, which is at least $5000 per person.
2. Contact a headhunter or recruiter, recruiters are old-hands from wall street, they have many conncections with the banks they previously worked for as well as acquaintences they met when they were working. Their acquaintences usually become senior persons or managers and they have the power to give you an interview. However, although recruiters are powful, you have to choose the right one to get you the right interviews. Some recruiters are simply collecting names to their database and boast to their clients (your future employers). There are some recruiters in our website. Go to our discussion forums for others' experience with recruiters.
3. Post your resume on career boards. This should be the first thing to do when you start searching job. Moster.com usually can get you lots of calls from recruiters. Tip: you should keep update your resume once a day to make it on the top of the list upon other candidates. Remember, there are thousands of people looking for the same job you are looking for. CareerBuilder.com is good too. I heard Yahoo! Hotjob is fine too, some students got some calls from recruiters. EfinanceCareer.com is specially for finance job, so you should definitely get into its database. You should also definitely look at our job board too.
4. The last way is much harder for most Ph.Ds. It requires highly professional skills in communication. It is to cold call the managers of the company you want to get into. You have to pass the gate-keepers all the way through a manager who can give you an interview. You can usually find their names and contact information on the company's website.
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• I have no programming experience, can I do quant too? |
What? you don't know programming as a Ph.D. You should learn at least one programming language, be it FORTRAN, C or C++. It's twenty-first centry already! If you really don't have any experience in programming, don't worry. You can learn it! Learn it like a language if you ever learn any foreign language. Any programming language has a set of keywords (like basic letters in English), some semantics (think about English again) and some special rules for you to write codes (think about writing in English you need put comma, separate paragraph, end a sentence). At the very first, you need remember the keywords, semantics. After you have learned some keywords, you can start program immediately. It will take you less than one month to get the basics of a programming language. You better learn C++ than other languages because it's most widely used in finance industry. |
• What should you expect to be a quant? |
1. You will earn a lot but no more. Typical entry level for a quant PH.D. in a major bank on the street is about $100K plus bonus. The first year bonus is usually 50% of your base salary, it generally increases to 100% or more after the first year. So you should expect a total package of $300K per year after 3-5 years.
2. You will work a lot and more. A lot means 10-12 hours each day plus the travel time. It is normal for quants to come earlier and stay late. Sometimes without going home. If you don't like such life, do NOT jump!
3. It's highly volatile. Your job somehow depends largely on the goodness of the market. The market goes up, you earn more, the market goes down you earn less or even lose the job. People on wall street like to swing a lot.
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• Why Wall Street likes Ph.Ds in Physics, Mathematics and Computer Science? |
Because the first quants are coming from physics, math. Everybody likes similar minds. They need you know mathematics well, able to program (hence the computer science). If you come from one of the fields, you have a much better chance of getting many interviews. You will know it when you start to send out resumes.
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